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Interview With Scout Cloud Lee of Survivor: Vanuatu

by LauraBelle

Hi Scout! Thanks so much for taking our questions today, and congrats on making it to the final three!

RS: How has life post-Survivor changed for you and Annie?

Scout: Annie and I just moved from our Ranch in Stillwater, Oklahoma to our new Ranch Home in Tryon, Oklahoma. We have both been public figures, authors, trainers, and motivational speakers. Now we are getting lots of requests to speak. Since I am both a Survivor and a cancer survivor, I’m getting requests to inspire those with cancer. I’m also an emcee and host of stage shows, and am getting opportunity to work with some exciting projects. More on that later. People stop us everywhere with hugs, kinds words, and expressions of pride.

I’m getting lots of emails regarding my integrity. I have a scent that I created 20 years ago. I always wear it. It’s based in patchuli oil, musk, cedar, sage, and something secret. I decided to make it available to the public. I call it “Integrity By Scout”. We also have a book out called The Circle Is Sacred , and a new one coming out in March called Sworn to Fun: Celebrate Every Little Thing. These and my music CD’s are increasing in sales due to Survivor.

However, the main changes in my life are two-fold. First and foremost, by being honest about my relationship with Annie, I have found that people embrace and accept me for the good relationship that I maintain with everyone. I don’t flaunt my personal life, and people accept and love me just the same. The freedom from no longer living a secret is an unspeakable joy. I spoke at a Stillwater auditorium the other night and over three-hundred people packed in to hear me. They gave me a standing ovation when I walked in the room and another when I finished. Very amazing love from Oklahomans!

The second major change is that I have a peace and internal patience that I didn’t have before. As I’ve seasoned with time, I find less and less “hills to die on”. There were many, many times that I kept my mouth shut in Vanuatu. The gift of this silence continues in my life today.

RS: You kept your alliance with Twila throughout the whole show. What was it you saw in those early days that caused you to form this strong alliance with her?

Scout: From the very first night with our treacherous walk through lava forests in pouring rain, I knew Twila was a keeper. She was a very hard worker from day one. I was the major builder of our tribe. Twila was the best worker with me. We both got up early and worked non-stop from dawn to dusk and beyond. We both were willing to get up at night to keep the fire going. We both, together, chopped wood, carried water, and kept fire all day and night.

Twila was there to win the money. I was there to play the game. We fit. We had similar work ethics. We both came from hard working families. Twila didn’t take any crap off people. I didn’t either. However, I did have the composure to collect my emotions and thoughts before interacting with others. While Twila lacks that composure, she is “the real deal”. What you see is what you get. I trust that in any person. Finally, of all the players, Twila needed the money to improve her life.

RS: You also seemed to have a dislike for Eliza since the beginning. What was it about her that you didn’t like?

Scout: Let me be very clear about something. I loved Eliza. Lovin’ is easy. We humans are designed to be loving beings. However, I didn’t like Liza. She talked non-stop. She interrupted everyone’s conversation to “top their story with one of her own”. She talked like a high school Valley Girl, using the word “like” a million times. Everything is “like” something. She lacked the ability to pause in her expression. She filled every natural pause with the word “like”. She talked incessantly about herself and lacked the ability to ask others about their lives. She was very disrespectful of elders. She was simply annoying to just about everyone. However, she was a strong competitor and had an innate honesty about her that I found endearing.

RS: What was tougher on you – the challenges or living with Eliza?

Scout: The Challenges were fun for me, particularly the sling-shot, shuffleboard, history of the Ni-Vanuatu, puzzles, and the vertical maze. I also loved all the swimming. It was the balancing that was hard on me, and, of course, running. Living with Liza was sometimes very challenging. However, living 24-7 with anyone would be very challenging.

Remember, I was out there 38 days. That’s a very long camping trip to take with little to eat, wear, or drink. The hardest part for me was the hostile environment. It was sooooooooooo cold in Vanuatu. We had little clothes. Attempting to sleep in pouring rain on bamboo poles was almost impossible. Thus, sleep deprevation was difficult.
The vines were knee deep and the beaches were covered with sharp coral. Our sores got very infected. The bathing in the creek was sooooooo cold. Not being able to have toothpaste, soap and shampoo for 38 days was also challenging. This game is made for the tough.

RS: You have mentioned since the show that you found your artificial knee didn’t fit right. Is there a story behind why you needed the replacement, and is this why you didn’t fare well in some of the challenges?

Scout: Twenty years ago, I injured my knee snow skiing. The repair in those days was ineffective. The result was that my knee fell off to the side. I had a knee replacement so I could qualify for Survivor. The repair was done one year prior to Vanuatu. It should have been great for the game. It, however, was too small (unknown to me) and was very inflexible. I had it replaced after I returned from Vanuatu. It is working soooooooooo much better now. With a good knee, I could have “kicked butt and taken names”. I’ve always been a stellar athlete, even for my age. However, the very fact that I was able to compete at all, and remain in the game, let’s me know that “relationships” are more important than physical prowess.

RS: How did Chris break through that tight female alliance?

Scout: When Leanne returned from her trip to the volcano, she had “bumped” me down from the final four to the final five. Twila and I both saw the writing on the wall. Both Leanne and Ami intended to bump me and Twila as soon as all the men were gone. We, thus, needed Chris to improve our chances of making it to the final three and final two. Plus, Chris was a likable guy who helped out around camp. He was fun to be around.

RS: It was great after the last challenge when you were honest with Chris and told him after he had asked, that Twila had not tried to make a deal with you. You had to have known your honesty could cost you Final Two. Was this honesty out of loyalty to Twila and a sincere desire to see her in Final Two, or are you always that honest?

Scout: Chris had already told me that he didn’t think he could beat me in the final two. However, I had managed to play the game with a basic integrity. Why ruin it in the final throws of the game, knowing that Chris wouldn’t take me anyway? Twila had been my faithful friend in the game. She really wanted to win, and I wanted her to win. Again, I was never motivated by the money. Money isn’t worth stepping away from the core of our beings. Yes, I’m an intregris person. However, I may not always tell you my truth, because sometimes my truth is none of your business. In these cases, I can make up stories as good as the next person.

RS: What do you credit with your success of coming in Third Place?

Scout: Totally, my ability to make “good relations” with people; keep my mouth shut; allow others to take credit for things that may not have been theirs; keep track of what people said and did so I could use it to my advantage; and coach myself to hang tuff.

I have been a Florida State swimming champion, a sports coach, and a corporate coach for most of my life. I have coached many people to continue on even when their best effort seemed to always land them in last place. I had to use my best coaching skills on myself to “prop” myself up and encourage myself to give a full effort, knowing that there was not a chance of a snowball in hell that I would win.

However, I was a great asset to my tribe in all the mental and upper body challenges. We won the important stuff: fire, blankets, pillows, Dah (the native Ni-Vanautu). I didn’t mind not winning beer and pretzels or steak. I am a life coach for many successful people. One must be a very good observer and strategist. I was central to the strategy of the game, both in Yasur and Alinta. I’m very good at dropping ideas into a circle and watching people take ownership of them. This happened many times.

Finally, I was naturally good at nurturing people, building, finding food, making tooth brushes, hair pics, spoons, bowls, etc. I also cleaned up the camp and worked my butt off. Several people called me “Mama”. It’s hard to kick “Yo Mama” out of the tribe. Before the merge, I was the hardest worker and was called the Chief. After the merge, my physical limitation allowed me to be less of a threat. Overall, I think I played the game for all it was worth, given my abilities and the result took me to the final three.

Thanks again Scout – we wish you and Annie the very best!

I welcome all questions and comments at LauraBelle@realityshack.com


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